Ice cream van row creating bitter neighbour divide on quiet cul-de-sac

07 July 2023 , 09:46
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The row is over ice cream vans (Image: Copyright Unknown)
The row is over ice cream vans (Image: Copyright Unknown)

A bizarre row over ice cream vans stored at a home in a quiet cul-de-sac has caused such a bitter fall out that one neighbour has said it is affecting his quality of life.

The trouble centres around homeowner Frank Tinnirello who lives on the street in Tameside, Greater Manchester and wants to demolish his conservatory and build a build a two storey extension in its place.

But 10 neighbours have objected over worries about more ice cream vans visiting the site, reports the Manchester Evening News.

There is already an enforcement notice in place at the home which means only two ice cream vans are to be stored at the site at any time.

Council officers say there are ‘ongoing enforcement matters and concerns regarding potential breaches of planning at the application site’, and if more than two ice cream vans are found to be parked up the council may take further action.

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However they added that after several surprise and planned officer visits to the cul-de-sac that the proposed extension would be used for domestic purposes.

Ice cream van row creating bitter neighbour divide on quiet cul-de-sacOne of the ice cream vans (Copyright Unknown)

Head of planning Melanie Hale said: “There’s no evidence that the main dwelling and attached garage are being used for business purposes. “It’s our view that the application should be considered as an extension to a dwelling.”

But she added that ‘over time’ as it came into summer there had been an increase in the storage of stock at another garage in the rear of the site.

“We have observed ice cream vans being present at the property,” she said. “It comes down to the fact there is a business being run from the premises, about that there is no doubt, but it’s the extent of which it is.”

Objector and next door neighbour John Schofield said he had previously ‘pleaded’ the case of people living around the close in Tameside, Greater Manchester to the council. He distributed photos of ice cream vans that he said had been parked outside the house to panel members.

Ice cream van row creating bitter neighbour divide on quiet cul-de-sacAnother one of the vans (LDRS)

“I am not against a two storey extension at all on a residential property. I really am not,” he told the meeting.

“There have been regular visits from the council but with the greatest of respect these visits have been done at midday, these ice cream vans aren’t going to be there in the day because they’re out earning money. They’re there in the morning and they’re there in the evening because that’s when they need storage.

“It’s very difficult for myself and neighbours to capture this enforcement notice being breached. But one of my neighbours at the back has captured three ice cream vans being stored at one given time.”

Mr Schofield added: “I believe that this two storey extension would be done for commercial purposes really and a change of use would be better applied for. I would like to know that this enforcement notice is worth the paper it’s written on.

"I don’t want to be overlooked by multiple ice cream vans.

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Ice cream van row creating bitter neighbour divide on quiet cul-de-sacA different ice cream van (LDRS)

“Because it’s the quality of my life, the joy for me of owning that home is no longer going to be there nor is it for the surrounding neighbours.”

A decision on the plans had previously been deferred so that the council could investigate whether the house was being used for a business.

The agent on behalf of the applicant, Sohail Musa, said: “The council has visited the property on three different occasions and has been satisfied that it is in fact a dwelling-house.

“I realise that the objectors are aggrieved with various other issues going on at this site and I do sympathise.

“Unfortunately that doesn’t have any bearing on this application and it should be judged on its own merits.

“We’ve also got to sympathise with the applicant, he lives at the property, he’s got family, he’s got extended family that utilise the property and the financial and emotional burden it’s had on my applicant I have seen first hand.

“The extension is required to service family needs. Can you imagine having your property constantly visited by the council to ascertain its use as well as being constantly under surveillance by your neighbours?

“I get some of the reasons why, but how long can this continue for? He does have a right to privacy, he does have a right to live at this property and utilise it as a house.”

Mr Musa said that ‘on the odd occasion’ there were ice cream vans parked up at the house. But he added: “The applicant is happy for the council to pop over and visit the property whenever they feel is necessary to check it’s not being used as a business.”

Committee chair Coun David McNally responded: “I get what you’re saying, the household has a right to privacy and a good standard of living – so does his neighbours’.

“We’ve got to judge, is it a house? Is it a business? You can’t just say that you think he’s been hard done by. The emotions and other things don’t come into it.”

Coun McNally recommended they approve the application, which was supported by all but Coun Bowerman. However the chair urged objectors to continue to alert the council to enforcement breaches over the number of ice cream vans parking at the house.

Kelly-Ann Mills

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